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Vampires or Gods?

Postby Alterra Von Feuers » Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:46 pm

In my search for information pertaining to Osiris I came across this.

Vampires or Gods?
Excerpts from the book written by William Meyers

The Reality of Immortality

The vampire is immortal. The vampire defies death.
The vampire can give the gift, or curse, of immortality
to other men and women. That is the essence of the
vampire "myth."
Some religious adherents insist that their God
lives, today, in human form, but immortal. Many past
religions insisted that their God lived and claimed
immortality for him. Only a few religious systems,
notably Judaism, Islam, and some forms of Buddhism,
worship an abstract God that has no divine, immortal,
human counterpart on earth.
The materialistic, naturalistic (and sometimes
atheistic) world-view that developed in Europe in this
millennium rejected all these claims. Most scholars went
so far as to deny that immortal religious figures like
Hercules, Romulus, Osiris and Jesus Christ ever had a
real existence. They claimed that these figures were
mythological creations of the human imagination. In
particular, since the Christians had already convinced
most people that Greek, Roman, and other gods were
mythological, scholars wrote many a book trying to
convince people that Jesus Christ either never existed
or, if he did exist, did not rise from the dead.
But scientists today are beginning to make
immortality imaginable even for those of us born mortal.
A recent Scientific American article surveying publicly
known research [Why Do We Age? by Ricki L. Rusting,
December, 1992, p. 130] offers a variety of experimental
ways of extending life well into a second century. Most
important, research verifies that there is a strong
genetic component to longevity: each species of life has
a basic life-span, within which is some degree of
variation.
Perhaps the ancient Gods, including those discussed
in this book, were merely exceptionally endowed men and
women. Perhaps they lived to be 120 in an age when living
to be 40 was unusual. Or perhaps they lived far longer;
some may be alive today, two millennia or more after
their births.
Later chapters will focus on the historical record.
What I say here must remain, at present, speculation: a
consideration of possibilities. This book will focus on
those men and women claiming to have been humans who
somehow triumphed over death. I cannot claim to say much
about vampires in general: perhaps only a few have tried,
or been successful, at setting themselves up as gods. If
there were more immortals, perhaps they found life to be
better posing as businessmen, or as bums, rather than
posing as gods or sages. But to look for vampires in the
historical record, they must be in it; and religious
cults of sufficient size tend to show up in the history
books.

The Resurrection of the Dead

Consider one definition of a vampire: "a corpse that
becomes reanimated" [Webster's New World Dictionary]. In
most of the cases of beings claiming to be Gods presented
in this book, Godhood came only after death. Therefore it
is often assumed that immortality was in the spirit, not
in the flesh. Those who deny that vampires exist claim
that "the spirit" was memories of the living, perhaps in
dreams or a result of temporary schizophrenia. When
Krishna, Orpheus, or the Blessed Virgin Mary appears to
someone in our present time, the skeptics again call it
a hallucination or dream.
Many people, however, maintain that the spirit is
something separable from the body. They might argue that
since a voice can be sent by radio waves, and a
computer's intelligence stored on a magnetic tape,
perhaps some medium exists that supports human
consciousness, apart from the brain. In that case,
presumably, longevity or immortality would rest on the
nature of the medium and the coherence of the mind and
personality.
But against this whole theory is the plain claim
that the corpses of the ancient gods were, in fact,
reanimated. Skeptics claim that, since reanimation is
impossible, either they were not really, totally dead, or
those with a stake in the nascent religion hid the dead
body and lied about it. Certainly in ancient times, as in
the present day, some people came so close to death that
those who observed them genuinely believed they had
perished. And certainly men lie, especially when their
egos or livelihoods are at risk.
In the world of plants and animals, however,
reanimation is a much more common feat. Many animals can
regenerate a lost limb or tail as easily as humans can
heal a flesh wound. Most children have observed a
mosquito or fly that, having been swatted and left for
dead, has resurrected itself. Perhaps some humans have
that ability.
Then there is the possibility that we are not
dealing, in the case of vampire-gods, with humans at all.
Perhaps they are a distinct species, related to man as
man is related to gorillas. Or the gods were a result of
a mating between immortal beings and ordinary humans, as
is claimed in the stories of Dionysus, Hercules, Jesus
Christ and others. Perhaps the rash of women claiming to
have been abducted by UFO's in the past two decades will
find that their children are immortal or have unusual
abilities.
One informant who claims to know real "vampires,"
humans who do not age or age only slowly, says that while
they are not sure what causes their condition, a common
theory is that it is simply a rare and recessive gene or
set of genes. This could explain why most immortals
chronicled in this book were the result of some sort of
sexual liaison that today is considered incest. The most
common circumstances were men mating with their female
descendants, and sisters mating with their brothers, both
of which would tend to make a recessive gene manifest
(and in fact usually results not in immortality, but in
degeneration). The incestuous relations of the Greek gods
are well known, as was the habit of the Egyptian pharaohs
of marrying their sisters, perhaps modeling themselves on
Isis/Osiris/Horus.

Holy Grail or
Night of the Living Dead?

The title of this book is: Vampires or Gods? For the
ordinary person, this is the crucial question. One
definition of Gods that fits our subjects is "various
beings conceived as supernatural, immortal, and having
special powers over the lives and affairs of people"
[ibid]. However, with the rise of monotheism each
religious cult claimed its particular God was the Supreme
and only Deity. A Roman or Greek had several Gods to
choose from, and might, in good judgement, at one point
serve Mars and at another Venus. Modern worshippers
usually put all their eggs in one basket.
To believe that rising from the dead is sufficient
to be credentialed as the Supreme Being is to put
yourself at grave risk. You may not be worshipping a God,
but a vampire. The vampire, to preserve its own
immortality, is likely to be more interested in your soul
or life energy than in mere blood. Or, if vampires have
no special spiritual qualities, they may be interested in
servants for their worldly empires.
~Falling into the waking dream~
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Postby Syngin » Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:21 am

This is a great find I'm going to have to hunt it down. It covers many of the theories that I have considered. Almost all ancient cultures/ religious beliefs have stories or myths of those they worshiped coming down from the heavens and mating with humans. I personally believe that vampyres are the results of such relations. I think that if anyone ever dared to actually do the research they would find that humans are divided into more than just races. I truly believe that they would discover that there exist at least 3 seperate species and of course thier subspecies.

The differences might be very subtle like those between a wolf and a dog but I'm sure they are there. Just in our community alone you have those that are born with certain natural psi abilities and are naturals at the art of magick but then you have others that although they are vampyres by nature seem to be lacking in this area. Humans can be divided just like any other animal on this planet. Starting with the basic predator/carnivore and prey/ often vegan but not always. These are just some of my rambling thoughts.
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