Phantom or Astral limbs

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Phantom or Astral limbs

Postby The Madame X » Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:17 pm

The terms ‘phantom limb syndrome’ or ‘ghost limb syndrome’ have been used to describe the phenomenon where a person experiences the presence of a missing limb. This is better documented in individuals that have suffered amputations. Taking it a step further, energetic emanations from where these limbs once were have been recorded on electromagnetic imaging systems confirming said experiences and leaving medical doctors much in disarray.

Proposed as a result of inner nature, a very strong past-life memory, or otherwise shared soul, the talk of astral limbs (like tails and wings) prevails, particularly in the Therian and Otherkin community. These individuals experience the presence of non-physical appendages in the form of movement, pain, temperature and pleasurable sensations. They can experience the size, position and even texture of said appendages in a very real way. These astral limbs have been reported to manifest sporadically or persistently often causing social and physical maladjustments in the bearer of such.

While these questions possibly apply more so to the Therians and Otherkin here, but I’d love to hear all your views regardless.
Are astral limbs just a product of the imagination or a result of wish-fulfillment?
Or are they a positive validation of the Therian/ Otherkin experience?
Have you experienced an astral appendage?
If so we’d love to hear your experience(s).
Has this experience increased after your initial awakening?
Has anyone detected/identified your astral limb without being privy to it?
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Postby Aislin Ni MorRhiaghan » Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:55 pm

While these questions possibly apply more so to the Therians and Otherkin here, but I’d love to hear all your views regardless.
Are astral limbs just a product of the imagination or a result of wish-fulfillment?
I can't speak for everyone but personally I often feel exactly as you say, as if something vital has been removed. Mor specifically it feels like a tingling between my shoulder blades near my spine that travels down the center of my back.


Or are they a positive validation of the Therian/ Otherkin experience?
I think in some cases it is. I also think that some Otherkin tend to consider the image of Fae or other beings to be winged when in actuality the wings are not physical but spiritual emanations of their Self. They are almost like wisps of netting that flow from the person in all directions. To some that have no other definition it could be perceived as wings. It's my understanding from speaking with several on the topic that the "wings" have different colors, patterns and variations. If they have blockages they may be spotted or striped. This might have added to the rendering of faeries with butterfly wings.


Have you experienced an astral appendage?
Yes. Two of them. Every time I undergo a transition I have strong tingling that is nearly painful. It's similar to the pins and needles feeling you have when your foot falls asleep.


If so we’d love to hear your experience(s).
Has this experience increased after your initial awakening?
I think it has increased with the number of transitions that I have every year. They have both shot through the roof lately.


Has anyone detected/identified your astral limb without being privy to it?
Yes.


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Postby EzikielTempted » Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:06 am

well, this is interesting. It actually made me go "hmm" when I read the title.



Are astral limbs just a product of the imagination or a result of wish-fulfillment? It is quite possible, to get all psych 101 on ya' since the manifested pain has no bearing upon the physical body other then stimulated areas of the central nervous system, it is in fact a psychological diagnosis.

Or are they a positive validation of the Therian/ Otherkin experience? More likely my idea, mostly since I could be in a deprivation tank and still feel around with "phantom limbs," getting information about my surrounding through them. And I'm sure everyone knows that feeling of being watched, but when people walk through them it sends shivers up my spine that verge on convulsion.

Have you experienced an astral appendage? why yes, yes I have and still do frequently.

If so we’d love to hear your experience(s).

Well, I did mention about the people walking through them, but I also use them when I'm in new situations, not sure how to feel about a particular person. though my appendages are a bit more prehensile than wing or a tail, the tentacles emanating from my back are very sensitive to changes in energy signatures and movements.

Has this experience increased after your initial awakening?

Very much so, yes.

Has anyone detected/identified your astral limb without being privy to it?

That was an awkward moment, but yes, it has happened.
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Postby RavenHarte » Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:03 am

Are astral limbs just a product of the imagination or a result of wish-fulfillment?

I dont beleive so no. I beleive that "phantom limb" has all to do with the person's physical body still perceiving and giving energy to the etheric body. One "feels" the limb because they are still projecting etheric energy creating an etheric limb, which of course no longer has a physical manifestation. Usually once the person accepts the loss, the mental and emotional bodies stop feeding the etheric body reasons to project, and they start drawing that etheric energy back, and eventually stop feeling it.

I think Otherkin/Therian limb experience may be the same. Personally I know I have raven, partly from The Morrighan and manifesting Her energy (Aislin, you???) and partly its just really me. So if part of my soul is then Raven it makes sense that when I am in tune with that energy my etheric body will want to be that form, but here I am in a human physical vehicle, hence "phantom wings", which by the way I only feel when I am threatened in someway (and usually thats how I KNOW I am threatened, I feel the wings "pop"), or actually manifesting The Morrighan for ritual or work.

Or are they a positive validation of the Therian/ Otherkin experience?

I think for me having a name for what was happening was the validation, not visa versa. THough I dont really see myself as Therian Raven, not a Raven soul trapped somehow in this human body, I do beleive one of my lives was Raven and that I must when needed, reach to that life through my core soul and pull it out. Being able to label that "Therian" gives me a context in which to view the the experiences I have had, experiment with it, etc.

Has this experience increased after your initial awakening?

Absolutely and now I have a modicum of control over it when at first I SOO did not.

Has anyone detected/identified your astral limb without being privy to it?
Detected it, yes. My Sword Maiden is completely in tune with the wing thing, though I dont think she does it consciously, in fact I'm going to have to ask her next time it happens. Its like an instant reaction, the Raven pops through and she is instantly at my side, alert, whatever. I never thought to ask what she "sees", I assume she perceives them because she gives me extra room, as if she knows something else is there. SOO WEIRD, I never thought about that before.....
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Postby Aislin Ni MorRhiaghan » Mon May 04, 2009 3:23 am

Oddly enough Ravenhart I do tend to be surrounded by ravens but find my closer connection with the MorRhiaghan tends to come in the form of a vulture. The wings that have been described to me are also colored much like vulture wings. Keep in mind European vultures tend to be much much larger than North American vultures. I've heard stories of some German and Austrian varieties much larger than California's condors. My grandmother once told me about seeing a caged vulture in a traveling circus in England that looked down at her in perching mode. She was 4'9", not a big woman but that must have been a huge vulture.

Oddly enough I also tend to feel the tingling when there is malicious energy around. Sometimes when there is another vamp, sometimes when there is an Other in the close vacinity.

I would say in terms of validation that for some yes it could be. Higher entities, be they deity, Ancient, fae, or angelic are often perceived as having huge wings, sometimes multiple sets of wings. Part of that is the emanation of the aura of these entities and other parts of that has to do with the manner that our perceptions are translated. Birds have wings, things emanating from the middle of the back, the hips, the shoulders, sometimes backs of the knees would be perceived as wings also because it makes sense. Fae actually didn't actually have wings, but they did have tendrils that radiated around them. I suppose you could say this would be akin to angels being all heavenly and surrounded by pure white light, in white robes, and eternally too beautiful to look at. Truthfully, even the most compassionate angels were not so beautiful if you look at the earliest descriptions of them.

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Postby Jade Faol » Fri May 08, 2009 6:49 am

Another wonderful topic by Madame. I'm once again excited that I'm able to share some of my knowledge.

This is an article taken from a therian wiki site. The link, and any other I may use for this topic can be clicked on below:

"A phantom shift is when someone experiences phantom limbs when at a previous time they did not feel them. For a therian this is often from their theriotype, however phantom shifting can occur for other animals as well, and like other shifts can be invoked by Shamans and other practitioners of shapeshifting. Phantom shifts often represent only certain parts of the body, such as wings, tails, muzzles, scales, claws, etc., but can also be full-bodied. While the vast majority of therians experience phantom limbs, a minority do not. However, A number of therians state that they do not have phantom shifts, per se, but instead always feel their phantom limbs. A number of therians state that they do not have phantom shifts, per se, but instead always feel their phantom limbs."
http://therian.wikia.com/wiki/Phantom_Shift

However, many people have many different views on Therianthropy/Lycanthropy or otherwise. There are some that say it is impossible, and others who wholeheartedly believe in it. The views are different, and yet, sadly scientific research of Therians and Otherkin are still in the newborn stage. I mean, who would want to up and say "I'm a wolf therian, put me under the microscope!"

Once again, I will look through my old files and articles and see if I can dig for more concrete information
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Postby The Madame X » Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:04 am

bump for Sacrelige...
because maybe
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Postby Sacrelige » Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:51 am

Hmm..

Stephen King, Tha Dark Tower Series. Book Two, titled The Drawing of the Three. The lobstrosities take off a few fingers from the main character, and a few toes too if I'm not mistaken. That's about as much as I've been exposed to 'phantom limbs.' Roland actually talks to his fingers, too, tells them that they're ghosts now and should leave him be.

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Postby deacongray » Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:35 am

I certainly feel my fangs from time to time. I suppose it is not the same thing as are true phantom limb, but fangs and claws have always felt like they just SHOULD be there.

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Postby Sacrelige » Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:08 pm

hehe definitely. "If my claws and teeth can't defend my own hide, then my hide's not worth defending." May as well have the claws n teeth to back it up :)

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Re: Phantom or Astral limbs

Postby Sacrelige » Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:10 am

http://youtu.be/xMWhyxEhYy8

9:30 Phantom limbs.

Also some interesting stuff later on synesthesia :D
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Re: Phantom or Astral limbs

Postby LadyGigiFrost » Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:29 am

I have to say, that there are times I feel my fangs...Oh dear that sounds so strange. If I get upset, feel threatened or in a lustful passion I am more aware of them. As well as what feel like a strange transformation, which I still have not been able to clearly identify as to why, but wings & and talons.
These two things are not always at the same time, and sometimes they are.
To be honest, I have not spent I great deal of time researching this, but I am most interested as there could be a spiritual link with the three.
I think I might be a little nervous what I might find - one awakening at a time right now when be a blessing - I think my plate is already full.
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