I knew a few of them from the community in NYC that have been accepted, worked for it, and been fine mentors in their times. I miss the city for that fact as in my area it is two hours from the nearest community anything though I have found a rather good few people online who I work with regularly regarding spirituality.
Deacon, I understand what you mean differentiating community and vampiric. I have come across situations you stated myself and happily excluded myself from those conversations
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"Social skill is present in most educated vampiric elders, but many are too busy with their own study and growth to even bother. "
All too true. It is a shame because a lot of those new to the community can miss out on those actually working at growth and those who would be beneficial
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"Great...but I know 14 yearold girls that have more spiritual growth going on then many of them...I don't consider them elders either"
Also, very true. Thank you both for your points
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